Wanted: online support group for parents with adult kids at home

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Just after my most recent speech on dealing with difficult people, a 40-something woman approached me and confided in a desperate half-whisper, "My problem is my 22-year-old daughter who lives with me. She's a single mother with no job and no plans. She doesn't lift a finger to help around the house. I don't know how much more of this I can take. What should I do?"
Parents all over the continent are asking the same thorny question as downsized, recession-weary children shuffle back to their refuge of last resort: the family home. It's only natural for caring moms and dads to want to help their kids regroup. Yet it's equally natural for resentment to set in when "a few months" morph into a year or more, with no plan to move on or contribution to the family's well-being.
There ought to be an online support group where frustrated parents can learn from the real experts---other parents who have been there and survived to tell the tale. You'd think that somewhere in cyberspace, there'd be a virtual hearthside for parents who want to help their kids without coddling them (talk about a delicate balance). But I've been looking for that haven for months. And I haven't found it yet (if I've missed something, do speak up).
My search began last fall, when Canada's Best Health magazine asked me to find out how two generations of adults can share the family home with a sense of purpose and good will. I interviewed a therapist who knows a thing or two about setting limits and making them stick. I consulted a financial planner who has seen retirees compromise their future to support so-called "boomerang kids." Friends connected me with families who have actually grown closer while an adult child regrouped at home---although they did admit to some glitches along the way.
Meanwhile I put out a call on this website for stories from the front lines of multi-generational living. I expected that some of those stories would be cautionary tales from can't-cope, wit's-end parents worn out by the surly presence of a layabout son or daughter. When weeks went by and no one responded, I pressed on with my magazine piece.
I backed up my research with a wealth of personal experience. Unlike anyone else I knew, I had lived this topic from both the parent's and the child's point of view. When my son returned to the nest in his 20s and stayed around for a year, my husband and I found soon found ourselves itching to reclaim our privacy, yet unable to propose a firm move-out date. I used to complain about this at the office---to the point where one cheeky staffer, about the same age as my son, piped up that she knew the solution: "Why don't you and your husband start having wild sex on the kitchen table? That'll get rid of him!"
Perhaps history was repeating. When I was 23, temporarily estranged from my husband, I too returned home to my old room. I had no money, no plans and a toddler in tow. (Sound familiar?) I expected a well-stocked fridge, and occasionally deigned to sweep the kitchen floor. My mother never told me it was time to start living like a grownup, nor did she set a deadline on my presence in her home. She waited, seething, for the problem to solve itself, which it eventually did when I returned to my marriage.
A literary scholar, my mother had been quoting poems all my life. Her favourite passages included this, from Robert Frost's"The Death of the Hired Man:"
Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
They have to take you in.
Maybe so. But that doesn't mean they have to let their daughter veg out in front of their TV, scattering granola crumbs, instead of looking for work.
My mother could have used some straight talk---and a good kick in the pants---from parents who understood her challenge. But none of her friends had seen a household like the one she and I were sharing so uneasily. Back then, more than 35 years ago, it was not considered cool for young people to live with their parents. I felt secretly ashamed of occupying a virginal room with flocked wallpaper and a child-size desk, instead of a funky flat where Chianti-swilling hipsters partied the night away. And I suspect that my normally take-charge mother felt ashamed of her inability to set any limits on my presence in her home, or impose any rules.
Now that I've walked in her shoes, I understand her hesitation. Mothers, especially, tend to want to shield their children from pain and disappointment. We can't bear the thought of our darlings camping out on a succession of couches, when we've got a perfectly good spare room. We don't want them slinging burgers when they dream of writing a screenplay. But some young adults need to rough it for a while in order to learn that they can cope without our nudging, controlling hand. Our task is not to keep them happy, but to prepare them for the world so that they can make their own happiness. And despite what we may fear, we will not lose their love for sticking to that all-important principle.
My article was published this month in the July/August issue of Best Health (if you live in the U.S., check the near-identical sister magazine, Best You). I stand behind everything I wrote but I'm convinced that some parentsn could use more intensive guidance than a magazine piece can provide. They may not be able to afford family therapy, and they may crave a sounding board daily, not just once a week. That's why they need a support group. And they just might be creating one right here.
I thought no one noticed my previous post Parents with adult children at home: do you have a story to share? Turns out I was mistaken. That page has attracted a steady trickle of visits from parents looking for advice (I know because I monitor the search terms that bring you here). More recently, questions and comments have popped up. If you're not sure how to handle an adult child's return to your home, I promise you'll learn from the real-life wisdom of Pamela, Lisa and Susan. Take a look and see for yourself.
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Posted by Rona June 28, 2009 @ 3:00 AM. File in Family ties


Your comments
June 29, 2009 at 12:12PM
Our middle son (the former "Mr. Ringlet"!) is nineteen. He just graduated from high school, does not plan to go to college, and has no plans to leave home. He has agreed to look for a job after he undergoes a fairly major operation next month. This is far from his first surgery, and as always I'm full of empathy. I am also afraid it's going to be the longest recuperation on record, as he's scared to death to look for a paying job. He has a marvelous personality, and is by far the most outgoing member of the family, so once he gets going, he'll probably be fine. But the interim is difficult, and he can be very nasty to me. My husband has spoken firmly to our son about this (not to much effect), as well to our son's psychiatrist, whom I have never met. So any online, confidential help is more than welcome.
Thanks for the link! Better times ahead!
June 30, 2009 at 6:06 AM
June 29, 2009 at 6:06PM
According to the Census Bureau, 5.1 million Americans ages 25 to 34 were living in the home of a parent in 2008 ? a 20 percent increase from 2004. Even more surprising, a survey in January by AARP, the lobby for older Americans, found that 11 percent of adults between the ages of 35 and 44 were living with parents or in-laws.
No matter what the trends show and how the economy has affected our lifestyle, it's healthy for young adults to move out and grow up. They are stunted at home and will remain adult "children" until they develop their own life skills and independence. Remember the concept of room mates? :)
June 30, 2009 at 6:06 AM
July 02, 2009 at 6:06AM
The plans will come, must come. As of today, the surgery may have to be postponed for medical reasons, and that postpones everything else, everything. Thanks for the ear... all best, Mrs. B
July 08, 2009 at 3:03 PM
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November 11, 2010 at 5:05AM
I am living your life and empathize with everything you are going through.
My daughter married a real loser, had two children and was physically and mentally abused for 11 years without letting on to anyone her true situation. I knew there were problems, but not to the extent we know now. When she finally realized things in her marriage would never improve, after couneling and getting her husband medical help for his mental condition, she obtained a restraining order and had him physically removed from their home.
To make a long scenario short, she had to sell her home, paid off many debts and had nowhere to go, not a penny to her name with her children. My husband and I feared for their safety and took them in.
At the time, we thought she would go back to college and finish her degree which she put on hold to let her husband get his degree, get on her feet with a better job and be able support herself and two children. Well, it is now 4 years later and she still hasn't finished school, lives from paycheck to paycheck and devotes all her time to work and her children ages 11 and 13. As for paying any expenses to live here, she gave us $1,000 from her income tax check this past January, will pick up a loaf of bread and milk once in a while that's about it. So, our resources are being drained, my husband works 60-70 hours a week, I work part time and have all the household responsibilities. She works full time and runs the children to scouts, dance lessons, sporting practices etc. Her husband doesn't have a real job and only gives her support for the children to stay out of jail. We are nearing retirement soon and had plans to move to Florida to be near our son, as he is planning on starting a family and we would like to spend time with them as well. Our daughter cannot move with us because her husband will not allow it legally and the children do not want to relocate either. I have exhausted all my patience, I like things neat and clean, they are all extremely sloppy and leave a trail of what they use throughout the house. My daughter does not share my cleaning habits, her room and the childrens are constantly in dissaray and filthly. If it were just her, we would ask her to prepare to leave so we could sell our home and move, but because of our grandchildren, we feel guilty to just leave them, knowing they do not have the financial resources to survive. She cannot receive any government assistance, because she earns just a few thousand over the minimum, no food stamps because she lives with us. We wouldn't feel comfortable with them living in low income housing, as they are not very safe areas. Our relationships are good, there is minimal conflict in the household because I do not complain or nag. My daughter knows and feels awful how this is affecting our lives, but realizes without additional income, she cannot survive. I try to tolerate the situation because I love them, but I can't help wanting the empty nest we were supposed to have. My husband believes also that it is our responsibility to help them, not some government program and works so hard to make ends meet. We've pondered over many ways to make changes, but come up empty with an idea that would work. We are open to suggestions other than throwing them out.
January 02, 2011 at 8:08PM
I could go on and on the emotional pain is so strong, I never felt older then I do now. I try to keep fit and have been finally losing some weight after seeing a physiotherapist once a month for my pain in my legs and hips, he turns me into a pretzel, then accupunctures me, then sends me home with exercises to do and it has been working great. I also have horses who need feeding and watering daily which entails a lot of walking and lifting, right now through snow and ice. Sometimes grandaughter helps by keeping me company riding on my back in a back pack, unless it's time for a nap.
Anyway, here I go again......looking forward to hearing any tips or ideas other might have. Bless all of you and hang in there.
January 03, 2011 at 5:05 AM
January 26, 2011 at 10:10AM
A little history; I married at 18, had a son and daughter, divorced at 26. I raised them alone, their father remarried, the new wife didn't want them around, he stopped all visitations with his own children when they were 12 & 8. I was on my own after that. My son being the oldest, was mistakenly told by my well-meaning father, that he was the "man of the house" now and had to take care of me and his little sister. This created a monster!
My son has never liked any man I've dated or married. I remarried in 1991, my son hated him so much, he wouldn't give him a chance. This destroyed the marriage, of course, because I was my son's only parent and could not abandon him. So, I divorced, again and remained single for 12 years. I had promised my son I wouldn't remarry until he graduated high school and didn't have to live with me any longer. Well, he graduated and didn't move out until 7 years later!!!! I remarred 6 years ago. My son was not living with me then. Two years later, he moved back home. He is still thinks he is "man of the house" and entitled to act anyway he pleases. I have many, many discussions wtih my son to make him understand this is temporary, we want our privacy, he's supposed to take of himself, etc.
My son has mental issues. He says and does crazy things sometimes, has severe depression issues, and claims he was abducted by aliens when he was a child. He won't seek help. To tell you the truth, I'm scared of him.
Am I supposed to "let" this crazy person loose on society? How can I help him yet get him out of my house? I'm so tired ot this situation. It's causing problems between me and my husband but mainly, I'm at my wits end and do not know what to do anymore. I've tired everything to make him grow up and leave for good. I'm so miserable and don't know where to turn. I want my life to be about what I want now. I'm 53 and have had a child in my home for 34 years and sick of it!!!!! HELP!!
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July 22, 2011 at 9:09PM
Both my 15 year old daughter and myself are literally pulling our hair out. Both men do absolutely nothing but sleep all day and stay up all night, we all argue about money constantly. They both think I should give them $ when they want it, but don't want to give anything back and complain constantly that I don't feed them or have food in the house (not the kind of food they want. , ie soda, junk food. I was married to their father for over 23 years and left him because he was a bully, emotionally abusive, financially abusive, etc and it seems like I'm getting paid twice. Neither one wants to work, I just want to run away, any help?
Deb
July 23, 2011 at 9:09 AM
July 31, 2011 at 7:07AM
Rona, I really need to get some advice as to how to deal with my son and not feel guilty. I got married when I was 17 because I wanted to get away from home. I had my son 10 months later and from day 1 - he was a challange. My husband was not very helpful and had addiction problems. His Dads approach to parenting was with a belt. No matter how many times I tried to talk to his Dad about how he needed to balance discipline with love - he told me to stay out of it. He said I shouldnt coddle him. He said it would be my fault if he did not turn out right. My son cried each night because he said his Dad didnt love him. Long story short -- we divorced when my son was 14.
He is 38 now and I am still trying to protect him. He has been unemployed for a year. He quit a job because they didnt appreciate him - even though he was making over 100,000.00 a year! He has become very paranoid and is caught up in a lot of conspiracy theories. I walk on eggshells when I am around him because he is very argumentative and has a quick temper. He again wants to come home and stay with me until he gets his life back together but he frightens me. My current husband (his stepdad) doesnt want him to move back in. I feel gulity but I dont want him to move back either. We have tried that several times and it always makes our lives miserable.
The thought of him being homeless or suffering is so painful for me. I know I need to let go but it is so hard. I feel so sad - I cant stop seeing the little boy's face that wanted his dad to love him. I need help!!
July 31, 2011 at 9:09 AM
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November 17, 2011 at 4:04AM
Here is my story: Back in 2003 she was going into grade 7...3 days in and had a severe panic attack...lots of thereapy later and meds...she never went back to school...we homeschooled. We spent a lot of time together and I guess I turned into an enabler. I never wanted her to be upset, felt sorry for her that she didn't get to have a normal teenage life. But she still managed to have a few close friends and boyfriends. Not a typical teenage life but we survived. She was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder and anxiety in general and PSTD from being bullied in elementary school which is what caused the panic going into grade 7.
Fast Forward to 2011, she became engaged last year to a wonderful man in the military and he himself is an enable to her...he agrees to everything she wants or says. Again not the issue. The issue is our relationship, I am an enabler and allowed her to probably be disrespectful, or if she was upset tell her sisters to not upset her...we walk around on egg shells trying to not upset her. She is beautfiful...literally!! She has overcome the social anxiety, she is a charmer and people who meet her say what a wonderful person. Has stop taking her meds and deals with it by exercising. And I am proud she has overcome alot of her past. She still has anxiety but she manages to control it. Has low self esteem and that probably causes a lot of the issues.
But we fight all the time, if I dont say something with the excitement she feels is warranted or act interested or add !!! in texts...basically if I am nice she gets mad if I dont pay attention enough to her gets mad. She gives me no credit for the homeschooling at all...she has no empathy for others...it all seems to be about her and if it isnt she gets mad. BUT she doesnt see that, she sees herself as this very nice, giving person and the rest of us just dont understand. She is so disrespectful to me and says I start all the fights it is never her and I end up saying sorry for things that I feel I did not do wrong to end the fight. I am so full of stress and anxiety myself.
We had a fight yesterday, or should I say she attacked me about something and deleted me from facebook and said she is not going to talk to me again. There is so much more this story and the things she says and does to me. My other two girls who I have no problems with (they are older) say mom you enable her...she gets mad says its your fault and then you cry and go on and get depressed and act like it is...when clearly she is the problem.
And there is my problem how to I stop this cycle of basically abuse she piles on me. Anyone will tell you I am a great mother and they dont know why I stand for this. But basically I am trapped and dont know how to stop it. I know what will happen she is home like nothing is wrong and in a a week or so will call like nothing is wrong. And I want to tell her that is unacceptable and that I won't tolerate that anymore. But at the same time it terrifies me to think she will close all contact...part of me knows she wont. I need help!! I know what needs to be done I just dont know how to do it...
Thanks for any insight
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